# Jonathan's Film File-was-file uploaded to ranchos

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**Created:** [October 14, 2005, 9:14am UTC](https://lingram.top/t/jonathans-film-file-was-file-uploaded-to-ranchos/11034 "2005-10-14T09:14:13Z")
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#### Post date: [October 14, 2005, 9:14am UTC](https://lingram.top/t/jonathans-film-file-was-file-uploaded-to-ranchos/11034/1 "2005-10-14T09:14:13Z")

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I actually do have that record and I have been studying it because in records at home I found her birthdate as June 8, 1873. Perhaps the 1872 date is incorrect. I recall as a girl that she would insist she was indeed from "Salinas" not "Sabinas??" Everything else matches except that her mom's name is spelled Refugio on the paper work I have found, mostly handwritten notes here and there. I also have her death certificate. And that's about it. Thank you so much, Jose. Mary (Garana) Allen  
  
**_jose munoz_** wrote:

> Mary Allen, do you have this record?  
>   
> IGI Individual Record FamilySearch? International  
> Genealogical Index v5.0   
> Mexico   
> PETRA ROMERO GONZALES   
> Female   
> Event(s):   
> Birth:   
> Christening: 27 MAY 1872 Nuestro Padre Jesus,  
> Salinas Del Penon Blanco, San Luis Potosi, Mexico  
>   
> Parents:   
> Father: VICTOR ROMERO Family   
> Mother: REFUGIA GONZALES   
>   
> Source Information:   
> Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout  
> Call No.: Type:   
>   
> Batch: K601881 1864 - 1875 Film #0708217   
>   
> Just Curious  
>   
> Jose Munoz  
> Yuba City, Ca.  
>   
>   
> --- Mary Allen wrote:  
>   
> \> Jonathan, you are so kind and encouraging.  
> \>   
> \> I am especially concerned about my grandfather Jose  
> \> Adalberto Garana. This is all I know about him:   
> \> He was born in 1873 in Mexico but I don't know  
> \> where. I don't know his father's name but I believe  
> \> his mother was Maria Garana. This leads me to  
> \> believe that his father's name was something else.   
> \> He was educated by the Augustinians and the Jesuits.  
> \> He married Petra Romero Gonzalez of Salinas, SLP,  
> \> probably in 1904 and lived in San Luis Potosi, SLP,   
> \> and had a son in 1905 and daughters in 1907 and  
> \> 1911. In 1917 he crossed through El Paso with his  
> \> wife and three children and others hired to work on  
> \> the Santa Fe railroad. They went to Fort Madison,  
> \> Iowa. I find him again in 1921 in San Antonio, Tx.   
> \> He died in Corpus Christi, Tx in 1958.   
> \>   
> \> Of my great grandfather I have found even less.   
> \> Victor Romero married Refugio Gonzalez and had a  
> \> daughter Petra Romero Gonzalez in 1873 in Salinas,  
> \> SLP. I have found a photo of him dated 1894 with a  
> \> woman identified as his wife, who is not Refugio  
> \> Gonzalez.This much I know from Petra herself whom I  
> \> knew. That's it. That's all I have been able to  
> \> find out.  
> \>   
> \> I am still digging but if you can help me I will be  
> \> so grateful. I found a photo of a nun, dated 1967.   
> \> I sent copies to my nun friends and one of them took  
> \> the photo to Mexico City and actually found the nun,  
> \> alive, alert and 93. I am planning to go very soon  
> \> to visit with her. I believe she may be the child  
> \> of the woman in the photo with Don Victor. I will  
> \> let you know what I find.  
> \>   
> \> Mary Garana Allen  
> \> mexicanfhr wrote:  
> \> Mary,  
> \>   
> \> If you could tell me, the names and what  
> \> information, that you have on  
> \> the grandfathers, that you are searching for. I'll  
> \> see if I can find  
> \> anything.  
> \>   
> \> Also, to all of the Ranchos members, if you have  
> \> elusive ancestor,  
> \> send me the information. And I will see, if I can  
> \> find anything.  
> \>   
> \> Thanks,  
> \> Jonathan  
> \>   
> \>   
> \> --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Mary Allen  
> \> wrote:  
> \> \>  
> \> \> Hello, Jonathan: I am one of the newer members,  
> \> not only in Ranchos  
> \> but in the whole genealogy experience itself. I have  
> \> been working  
> \> steadily for about nine years and made a lot of  
> \> "progress" but was  
> \> striking out in all directions and actually don't  
> \> even know if I was  
> \> running into ancestors or not. Then I ran into  
> \> Ranchos and it put the  
> \> whole thing into focus. Now I am rather excited  
> \> because by sending  
> \> out copies of an unidentified photo, I actually have  
> \> my first "hit".  
> \> It is a living person, 93 years old, who is the  
> \> granddaughter of the  
> \> very man I was looking up. I may really need some  
> \> help later but in a  
> \> couple of weeks I am flying to Mexico City to meet  
> \> this person who is  
> \> willing to receive me. I will see what she can give  
> \> me; I understand  
> \> she is very alert. I definitely will need help  
> \> with the other  
> \> grandfather who absolutely hides from me: The  
> \> secret may be in Salt  
> \> Lake City. I have ordered some of the films,  
> \> waited a very long time  
> \> to receive them only to realize I  
> \> \> had not been careful in calculating the time  
> \> line.  
> \> \> I read every e-mail emanating from Ranchos and   
> \> you with relish!   
> \> It is almost as if I am sitting on the sidelines  
> \> listening to you  
> \> speak to each other. Exciting. One day I hope to  
> \> have something to  
> \> say. Mary Garana Allen  
> \> \>   
> \> \> mexicanfhr wrote:  
> \> \> Sorry, for the confusion, that my uploading of my  
> \> file has caused. I  
> \> \> created my file, with wordperfect (meaning, that I  
> \> have never used  
> \> \> excel yet.) I just wanted to share with the  
> \> group, what films and  
> \> \> other resources, that the FHC, here in Logan has.   
> \> Because I only do  
> \> \> about 25% of my research, that the Logan Family  
> \> History Center. The  
> \> \> other 75% of my research, is done at the Family  
> \> History Library, in  
> \> \> Salt Lake. so, in reality, I have access, to all  
> \> the films that the  
> \> \> Family History Library has, and it does not cost  
> \> me anything, to order  
> \> \> them.  
> \> \>   
> \> \> Thus saying that, I can say if, anyone needs a  
> \> occasional lookup, they  
> \> \> can contact me, and see when I will be in Salt  
> \> Lake. And can do the  
> \> \> Lookup.   
> \> \>   
> \> \> Also, if there are other group members, here in  
> \> Utah. That may be  
> \> \> able to help, with lookups at the FHL.  
> \> \>   
> \> \> Jonathan  
> \> \>   
> \> \>   
> \> \> --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  
> \> wrote:  
> \> \> \>  
> \> \> \> If you are using Excel then why can't it be that  
> \> we all create Excel   
> \> \> \> files and upload them once into the files area.  
> \> It seems that asking  
> \> \> you   
> \> \> \> to do double the work by re-entering them into  
> \> the database in  
> \> Ranchos   
> \> \> \> is punishment for a good deed. then again maybe  
> \> I'm missing  
> \> something.   
> \> \> \> Is there an advantage to this particular data  
> \> base in the databases  
> \> \> over   
> \> \> \> an excel file in the files area?  
> \> \> \>   
> \> \> \> I think the only difference is that for some  
> \> they won't do it unless   
> \> \> \> encouraged by Maria to participate in the one in  
> \> the databases (me  
> \> \> being   
> \> \> \> an example. . .yes I hear the message and will  
> \> be working on my own   
> \> \> \> excel file sometime in the near future, but i'm  
> \> so sorry to say that   
> \> \> \> truthfully I hardly get into the FHC anymore for  
> \> my own personal   
> \> \> \> research and all I'll do is be a big tease by  
> \> putting my films up  
> \> \> giving   
> \> \> \> the impression I'll be able to do look ups. .  
> \> .well I' might be  
> \> able to   
> \> \> \> do a few, especially if Kitty or Rich or  
> \> Jonathan were to ask for  
> \> some).  
> \> \> \>   
> \> \> \> Here is my definition of a look up though:  
> \> "Providing a photocopy or   
> \> \> \> scan of a persons requested record if the  
> \> researcher is provided with   
> \> \> \> the complete name (first and last) and the date  
> \> of the occasion (no   
> \> \> \> approximates)."  
> \> \> \>   
> \> \> \> thanks,  
> \> \> \>   
> \> \> \> joseph  
> \> \> \>   
> \> \> \> mexicanfhr wrote:  
> \> \> \>   
> \> \> \> \>Maria,  
> \> \> \> \>  
> \> \> \> \>I will try and use your database, when I have  
> \> the chance. My  
> \> \> \> \>situation is that I am using over 300 films,  
> \> right now and I am just  
> \> \> \> \>barely getting them, into my database. So  
> \> once, that is done. I'll  
> \> \> \> \>work on putting them, into your database.  
> \> \> \> \>  
> \> \> \> \>Jonathan  
> \> \> \> \>  
> \> \> \> \>  
> \> \> \> \>   
> \> \> \> \>  
> \> \> \>  
> \> \>   
> \> \>   
> \>   
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